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todd13
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what are all the combinations you can get with a pastel
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Number 2
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Pastel X Pastel = Super Pastel
Pastel X Spider = Bumblebee
Two that I know of off the top of my head...
I am sure there are more.
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RonCrawford
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We won't see all the possible combinations in our lifetime but check the list Deb posted to get some ideas.
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deborahbroadus
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| Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 1:36 am Post subject: |
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| RonCrawford wrote: | | We won't see all the possible combinations in our lifetime but check the list Deb posted to get some ideas. |
It's in the Genetic makeup section (sticky). 
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RonCrawford
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Jluke85
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Pastel and Albino will produce an Albino Pastel. I'm hoping to breed some of those in a couple years. But definitely check that list.
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Buck_99
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| Jluke85 wrote: | | Pastel and Albino will produce an Albino Pastel. |
Only if the pastel is heterozygous for albino too. Otherwise you won't know whether the offspring carry the albino gene.
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deborahbroadus
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| Buck_99 wrote: | | Jluke85 wrote: | | Pastel and Albino will produce an Albino Pastel. |
Only if the pastel is heterozygous for albino too. Otherwise you won't know whether the offspring carry the albino gene. |
Which means... if you do pair a Male Pastel with an Female Albino, you will have to keep the Pastel offspring back to "prove" them out by pairing them with each other or back to the dam.
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Buck_99
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| deborahbroadus wrote: | | Buck_99 wrote: | | Jluke85 wrote: | | Pastel and Albino will produce an Albino Pastel. |
Only if the pastel is heterozygous for albino too. Otherwise you won't know whether the offspring carry the albino gene. |
Which means... if you do pair a Male Pastel with an Female Albino, you will have to keep the Pastel offspring back to "prove" them out by pairing them with each other or back to the dam. |
Which means years of waiting, possibly with no payload at the end. If you can, find a reputable breeder and get a hold of a pastel that is already 100% het for albino.
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deborahbroadus
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| Buck_99 wrote: | | deborahbroadus wrote: | | Buck_99 wrote: | | Jluke85 wrote: | | Pastel and Albino will produce an Albino Pastel. |
Only if the pastel is heterozygous for albino too. Otherwise you won't know whether the offspring carry the albino gene. |
Which means... if you do pair a Male Pastel with an Female Albino, you will have to keep the Pastel offspring back to "prove" them out by pairing them with each other or back to the dam. |
Which means years of waiting, possibly with no payload at the end. If you can, find a reputable breeder and get a hold of a pastel that is already 100% het for albino. |
Some of us like a challenge, a sure thing is a bore.  
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NickMyers03
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we are lazy americans! why wait when you can have it now LOL
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deborahbroadus
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| NickMyers03 wrote: | | we are lazy americans! why wait when you can have it now LOL |
Speak for yourself, John. I don't even like fast food.
But I am just joshing, I take shortcuts too!
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Buck_99
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I hear you Deb, a challenge and some mystery can be good things. If, on the other hand, you have a specific goal in mind, then why take chances?
...said the GTP owner who has no clue what might come out of any pairings of his chondros.
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Jluke85
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Yeh you guys are right, I should have known better then to leave that info out... ...But the pastel I have is 100% Het Albino! So once I breed her with my male albino then I should get those Albino Pastels. Pretty cool huh...
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NickMyers03
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| Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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yes you have a CHANCE of producing a pastel albino...
now baby pastel albinos have a WHITE HEAD, as they grow the white areas tend to yellow out.
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