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MuhherFuhher
Joined: 22 Jun 2008
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Location: Grove City, Ohio
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| a_green wrote: | | I hope you will make dealing with that bulb a priority ASAP--you *should* be worried! That is not even a question. Ball pythons are always more talented (and often less intelligent) than you would expect. It only takes one mistake to give your snake a bad injury. |
I have secured the light today, see pic below. looks kinda cheap I know but its all i had to work with atm until i can buy or re-construct the lid. I need it b/c the heat pads aren't enough to maintain the proper temps by themselves (88-89F), but this light can on its own. should i just leave it on all the time and eliminate the pads?
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| a_green wrote: | | And also get digital gauges (both temp and humid) as soon as you can... you'd be surprised how inaccurate those analog things are. Also anything stick-on can get stuck to your snake and cause injury. |
Now that the light is secured, digi gages will be my next step.
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ryancbj22
Joined: 22 Jan 2008
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Location: Columbus Ohio
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| Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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I GUARANTEE THOSE UTH'S ARE OVER 100 DEGREES.
You don't have anything to measure temps with? You have those analog thermometers in there that are measuring the ambient air temp only. They are not measuring temps on the floor where your snake is always at. If you get a thermometer with a probe and place it under the substrate I promise you that uth is freakin hot..........
Those analog thermometers are worthless really. I hope i'm not being to blunt, but this has me worried. We usually have this problem with beginners that have 1 uth and no t-stat or thermometers. You have 2 UTH'S with no t-stat and working thermometers.....
I would highly highly suggest taking the one off the side and removing the lamp. You'll be surprised when you get a thermometer what it will read if you set it up right.l...
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MuhherFuhher
Joined: 22 Jun 2008
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Location: Grove City, Ohio
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| Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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| ryancbj22 wrote: | T-stat, t-stat, t-stat.....
I would comepletley remove the uth and just use the one on the bottom. It should cover about a 1/3 to 1/2 of the tank on the bottom. Run this with a t-stat no questions asked you can purchase them for $35 on the internet. The light you have is dangerous and comepletly useless on that tank. It's only making things worse.
You can purchase this thermometer at lowes or home depot or wal-mart for $15.00.
Here is a good t-stat for pretty cheap...Just go to the part on the left and hit on/off thermostat's. |
I got the light secured today (see pic in previous post). it would seem that i do need a light as both the uth's cannot maintain a high enough temp at all times by them selves (87-89F together). the light however can without the pads.
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MuhherFuhher
Joined: 22 Jun 2008
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Location: Grove City, Ohio
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| Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 2:42 pm Post subject: |
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| ryancbj22 wrote: | | I GUARANTEE THOSE UTH'S ARE OVER 100 DEGREES. |
Ok, now that the lamp is secured, I will keep it on all the time and eliminate the pads until I can get digital and t-stats. I know the BP requires somewhat higher temps than a burm, but I had my burm in this same setup (with no lamp tho) for nearly 2 years with no problems and temps never below 85F and never higher than 90F and she stayed healthy and happy as could be.
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ryancbj22
Joined: 22 Jan 2008
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Location: Columbus Ohio
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| Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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Okay take it or leave it.
My point is you have nothing in that tank that accuratley measures temps. Your analog thermometers are reading temps half way up the cage. Imigane what the temps are on the glass? If your temps are 85 that high up the tank then do the math of what they are on the floor.
I'm just giving suggestions like I said take it or leave it. Ultimately it's your decision of what to do with the setup, but i'm telling you now your temps are through the roof I guarantee it.....
P.S. just because your burm lived in that tank for two years doesn't mean it's applicable for your bp.......
Good luck keep us updated with set-up. I'm done 
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snakesRkewl
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| Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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That wiring can also be dangerous, looks like little pieces of it are sticking out? Probe thermometers can be had at many pet stores for 10 bucks, well worth the cost to get accurate temps : )
And ebay has seceral repti temp 500R's for under 30 bucks delivered to your house, great for home set ups 
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MuhherFuhher
Joined: 22 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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| snakesRkewl wrote: | That wiring can also be dangerous, looks like little pieces of it are sticking out? Probe thermometers can be had at many pet stores for 10 bucks, well worth the cost to get accurate temps : )
And ebay has seceral repti temp 500R's for under 30 bucks delivered to your house, great for home set ups |
There are some twist ties holding the wiring together, all sharp edges have been filed down. I can guide my hands over the screen endlessly with no snags or anything. I'll be getting digi gages and a t-stat soon.
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snakesRkewl
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PlayBall
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| Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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Whats the humidity level in there? and how are you measuring it? Light bulbs can bring humidity levels extremly low.
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PlayBall
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| Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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| ryancbj22 wrote: |
My point is you have nothing in that tank that accuratley measures temps. Your analog thermometers are reading temps half way up the cage. Imigane what the temps are on the glass? If your temps are 85 that high up the tank then do the math of what they are on the floor.
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Ryan is right. Make sure when you get new thermometers to place them ground level. Having your thermometes up there doesn't help at all. U need to measure the substrate temp. Get some with probes.
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deborahbroadus
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| Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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| MuhherFuhher wrote: | | ryancbj22 wrote: | | I GUARANTEE THOSE UTH'S ARE OVER 100 DEGREES. |
Ok, now that the lamp is secured, I will keep it on all the time and eliminate the pads until I can get digital and t-stats. I know the BP requires somewhat higher temps than a burm, but I had my burm in this same setup (with no lamp tho) for nearly 2 years with no problems and temps never below 85F and never higher than 90F and she stayed healthy and happy as could be. |
That's nice. Where is the burm now? Do you have a burm and a BP? I love burms!
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MuhherFuhher
Joined: 22 Jun 2008
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Location: Grove City, Ohio
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| Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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| PlayBall wrote: | | Whats the humidity level in there? and how are you measuring it? Light bulbs can bring humidity levels extremly low. |
The humidity is a constant 58-65% according to my analog hyg. I will be getting digital/probes soon.
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deborahbroadus
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| Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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| MuhherFuhher wrote: | | PlayBall wrote: | | Whats the humidity level in there? and how are you measuring it? Light bulbs can bring humidity levels extremly low. |
The humidity is a constant 58-65% according to my analog hyg. I will be getting digital/probes soon. |
We'll know if the humidity is correct when you experience your first shed..keep us updated.
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MuhherFuhher
Joined: 22 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 11:44 pm Post subject: |
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| deborahbroadus wrote: |
That's nice. Where is the burm now? Do you have a burm and a BP? I love burms! |
Sadly, i had to trade her in on the BP she was getting too big for me (and the wife), wife said she had to go b/c she was almost ready to start eating rabbits. 
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deborahbroadus
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| Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:09 am Post subject: |
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| MuhherFuhher wrote: | | deborahbroadus wrote: |
That's nice. Where is the burm now? Do you have a burm and a BP? I love burms! |
Sadly, i had to trade her in on the BP she was getting too big for me (and the wife), wife said she had to go b/c she was almost ready to start eating rabbits. |
Rabbit stew, ummmmmmmm.
Sorry for your loss. 
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