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deborahbroadus
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| ted1025 wrote: | But isn't there only a little opening around the heart, something like a breast plate is in front of everyone's heart right?? so it either penetrated the breast plate or found that little opening by some chance meaning it was just his time...  |
I can't believe that. We are meant to die of old age, that's our fate because of Adam and Eve. Anything else is a freak accident, accident or simply being in the wrong place at the wrong time. I do not believe he was "meant" to go and leave behind a family with children. 
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Luke S. Tick
Joined: 30 Aug 2006
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I could not, for the life of me, find the spines I found in Mexico, but I pulled up some pics of them and where they are located on the fish.
As for hitting his heart, Steve was reportedly swimming very close over the bugger, crowding it, with the camera-man in front, blocking it's visible exit. With no way out and feeling threatened, the animal acted defensivly by thrusting it's spine straight up and forward, a normal and well documented response by rays to imminant danger. When the spine went up and forward, it probably peirced him just under his solar-plexis, the hard plate of bone and cartilage where the ribs join in front. It's pretty much a straight shot at your heart from that angle, with the bone creating a V and actually aiming the long spike, kind of like a pool player making a V with their fingers to aim a pool cue.
Remember that Steve was quite a risk taker, and earned his claim to fame by getting entirely too close to very dangerous animals. Seeking out repeated close encounters with the deadliest animals on Earth, in remote areas, with limited medical resources, eventually leads to only one inevitable outcome...
Sometimes it's hard to live with good T.V..
Rest in peace, Steve. I'm pretty sure for him, that's wrestling a great big croc in the sky. 
Luke
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lindsey_marshall00
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to make the situation even worse, he was filming this escapade for his daughters new t.v. show. I do not want to know what it is doing to her emotionally and I hope like hell that she does not start to blame herself.
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deborahbroadus
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| Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Luke S. Tick wrote: | I could not, for the life of me, find the spines I found in Mexico, but I pulled up some pics of them and where they are located on the fish.
As for hitting his heart, Steve was reportedly swimming very close over the bugger, crowding it, with the camera-man in front, blocking it's visible exit. With no way out and feeling threatened, the animal acted defensivly by thrusting it's spine straight up and forward, a normal and well documented response by rays to imminant danger. When the spine went up and forward, it probably peirced him just under his solar-plexis, the hard plate of bone and cartilage where the ribs join in front. It's pretty much a straight shot at your heart from that angle, with the bone creating a V and actually aiming the long spike, kind of like a pool player making a V with their fingers to aim a pool cue.
Remember that Steve was quite a risk taker, and earned his claim to fame by getting entirely too close to very dangerous animals. Seeking out repeated close encounters with the deadliest animals on Earth, in remote areas, with limited medical resources, eventually leads to only one inevitable outcome...
Sometimes it's hard to live with good T.V..
Rest in peace, Steve. I'm pretty sure for him, that's wrestling a great big croc in the sky.
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Thank you, Luke for this educational post.
Yes, a freak accident caused by his behavior. I can live with that. His death was senseless and could have been prevented. But like we know, he was doing what he loved, the way he loved doing it.
I often watched mis movies. He was fun to watch. 
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slitheringin
Joined: 25 Jul 2006
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Location: Mountain Home Arkansas
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Luke, he was swimming 1 meter above the ray...that's almost 4 feet above...3.something.
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Luke S. Tick
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It may have been a meter. Consider this, though. The particular ray he was filming was a Bull ray. They can get to be 7-1/2' wide running an average of just under 6'. A meter is only 3'. They are very adept at swimming and defending themselves. Well within range of that spiny barb. Steve obviously got to close to either a frightened or aggressive animal.
Ain't Wikipedia great!
Luke
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Moshi
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I heard it was a really big ray... with a really big stinger.
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Stingray
Big stingray.
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