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[RonCrawford]

[Teja]

JDS3, HER snake, I am female

RonC.,
you are right. this bark is not dangerous.

My vet said that he need antibiotics again.
Now I am giving him antibiotics and water from the ''tube''.
I'm so scared that he may die of stress

[magana559]

I Would Say The Best Thing To Do Is Medicate You Ball And Leave It Alone Somewere Quiet, Warm And Dark.

Hope You Ball Pulls Through This Mess And Lives A Long Healthy Life With You!

[Teja]

[magana559]

[JDS3]

[deborahbroadus]

[hhmoore]

I just took a look at that video...and it wasn't really what I was expecting to see based upon your description. I have seen a few cases of neurologically impaired snakes, but that looked like a snake being lifted by a piece of fishing line.
- You say the snake was normal when you got it, but that after 10 days it was like that. Was it a sudden change, or did it develop more gradually?
- The snake was home bred in Slovenia...did you contact the breeder to see if he/she has encountered a similar problem, or if the snake might have been exposed to something?
- Is there any chance the snake was exposed to high temperatures (anything over 38`, or even sustained temps of 36-37`)? The tank left in front of a window on a sunny day, or the snake left in a car for a brief period are a couple of examples of ways this can happen that people sometimes don't think about.
- Were any other blood tests run? (you said a blood test was run for IBD)
- Are you administering the same antibiotic again, or something different?

[Teja]

hhmoore,
on the video is first day of his disfunction.
Like that was only the first day. Now he doesn't put his head up anymore. he is unable to roll over from the back. some day he even move backward. he is not possible to move forward like healthy phytons. he just ''jumps'' left and right.
When I get to another computer I can gove new photos.

What do you mean with this; ''being lifted by a piece of fishing line''.
something special or not?

his behaviour was totally sudden change. no other signs before. normally snake, through the night ill...

of course I contacted the breeder. but she das no clue what is going on. her snake are healthy, she said and she invited me to visit if I don't believe.

at my place there is no option snake was exposed very high temperatures.how later of exposing high temps is snake showing signs?

we only took very little blood for only IBD because it is so little snake- we don't want to kill him.

Before I gave him enroxill antibiotics, nov he has Gentamicin and Borgal.

I am losing my mind, he doesn't eat of course, he is loosing muscles, how than to put the antib. in no muscle?! and he now slowly MUST eat... with the vet we said that we will feed him on the ''force'', I mean help him with the mouse.

[hhmoore]

When I said it looked like he was being lifted by a piece of fishing line, I was just referring to the way the movement looked - head hanging down, but elevated/suspended, then moving up with no other muscular response that I could see.
An immediate change of that degree would seem to point toward a more "physical" cause, as opposed to infection (though this statement is not intended to rule out the possibility of infection, as things can certainly go unnoticed and progress rapidly). Could there have been a physical injury of some sort? Did it fall (or get dropped)? Could something have fallen on it? Could it have gotten caught and become injured while trying to free itself (or could somebody have pulled on it trying to get it out of someplace it was trying to go)?
Was your vet able to rule out physical injury?
My question about other blood work was pointed toward the use of antibiotics...specifically, I was wondering if there was any indication that this was, in fact, related to a bacterial infection.
I asked about high temperature because such exposure can definitely cause neurologic impairment/damage. In the cases I have seen, or heard of, the response is rapid - with symptoms becoming visible once a critical point is reached, or within several hours after. This is not something that I am particularly well versed in but, if there is no chance that the snake was exposed to high temps since it has been in your care, I doubt that option is worthy of much consideration.
How old is the snake? I suppose that the possibility of genetic or physical defect should not be overlooked.
Has it ever taken a meal?
Given the description, I would suggest that the need for nutrition needs to be weighed against the potential for harm...and that tube feeding of nutritional supplements (ie NutriCal) or pureed/liquified prey items might be preferable to force feeding even a nestling sized rodent.

I'm sorry that you are having this experience. It's bad enough when our animals get sick, but when the problem is out of the ordinary and seems unexplainable, it is frustrating and heartwrenching. I hope the situation improves.

[Teja]

physical injuri not possible we conclude. He didn't fall down, there is no posibility something falls on him. nobody pulled him from enywhere.

He is 9 mounths old. As I maybe already said, I got him on monday, 19.5.2008. on friday, 23.5. he ate a little mouse.
he suddenly got problems on 29. 5. 2008.

[Teja]

if he has paramyxovirus or something there is no help. if there is ''only'' encephalitis it's posible to get well.

I feed him with force today, it was on one time so sad and so happy...
he really wanted to eat but his neck was not ''working''.
when we passed the neck, the pyton push the mouse all alone.

please, pray for my little one:tears:, I don't sleep and not even eat normally for almost 3 weeks...

teja

[PlayBall]

[arlynos]

we are all hoping for you and your snake.

[Teja]

playball, I am WOMAN

thank you all. it doesn't seem weel.
but I have hope...

teja