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BP_Lover
Joined: 18 Apr 2008
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 Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 8:35 am Post subject: OK IM GOING CRAZY! |
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Well as you all probably now m looking in to buying a snake... ( y else would i be here i know dumb opening) but I have gotten lost in my own toughs and am asking for some help. Which snake should I get. vote and y\leave a breif description y below.
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Buck_99
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Location: Midlothian, VA
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| Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 9:55 am Post subject: |
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Had you put any other locality type I would have said go with the green tree python. Biaks are cheaper than other types but tend to have trust issues. It will be a challenge to handle such a snake, though it can be done. If handling is important to you, skip the Biak. Also, although caging requirements for GTP's are easier to meet than you might think, the cage does have to be bigger and will take up more space.
Is breeding important to you? As far as breeding goes, one GTP equals just one GTP, and one Dumerils doesn't help you make baby Dumerils. By contrast two ball pythons yield the potential for baby ball pythons, and you'd be on your way without needing to make another purchase.
The two ball pythons give you more options, so that's my vote. If what you want is just one snake for display purposes only, however, I'd go with the GTP. Consider a different locality type, though, one with a better disposition. Sorongs rock. Try buying one that's already a year old that has settled down.
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PlayBall
Joined: 11 Feb 2008
Posts: 358
Location: Chicago, IL
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Voted for spider and normal.
Spiders have the best personality. You have to get used to their wobble, I think that's what makes them great (scary once you first get them)
Normals are always fun with all their different patterns and shades.
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NickMyers03
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what snakes do you currently own?
how long have you owned snakes?
are you ready for a larger snake?
are you ready for a snake that needs ALOT more care?
Biak's are not good ( from what i have heard and read) for the first GTP owner...they tend to be more agressive.
what are you looking for this snake to be? ( breeder, pet, show case)
are you ever looking to hold the snake?
is it going to breed? ( i know i stated this BUT please answer)
there is alot to consider with owning diffrent types of snakes
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BP_Lover
Joined: 18 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 11:43 am Post subject: |
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| NickMyers03 wrote: | what snakes do you currently own?
how long have you owned snakes?
are you ready for a larger snake?
are you ready for a snake that needs ALOT more care?
Biak's are not good ( from what i have heard and read) for the first GTP owner...they tend to be more agressive.
what are you looking for this snake to be? ( breeder, pet, show case)
are you ever looking to hold the snake?
is it going to breed? ( i know i stated this BUT please answer)
there is alot to consider with owning diffrent types of snakes |
Welllll ok so first off buck I would get a Sorong I just didn't know how to spell it I know moronic.
NOW FOR NICK....(looking forward to this...) 
I have no snakes right now
I have not ever owned a snake but have been forced to read lol ( I was not forced) over 20+ websites buck, deb and xxxherperxxx from youtube (for the boas)
I am large enough to handle a larger snake ( I do still live with my parents Im only 14) So if the dumerals got large enough I would have my dad there with me 9 he is 6ft 3in and 230 pounds (also in the military)
Yes I have the time to care for a snake that needs allot of care (Im not really the go out with friends kind of guy I think it is just boring and would rather go on a hike)
I know I stated just before i would be getting a sorong
I want the snake to be a pet, unless I get ball pythons, they will be breeding pets and I get ball eventually hope to make a small business not to make money just as a hobby.
Yes I want to hold the snake but understand GTP don't and shouldn't be held until after 1 year of life because there bones are fragile.
Is it going to breed??
ball pythons- Yes
Dumerals- Maybe
GTP- Maybe
(I say maybe because at first I would only get one but as time goes on i may get more)
AHHHH my fingers hurt and Im done Yeahhhh 
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Buck_99
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| BP_Lover wrote: | | I have no snakes right now |
I didn't know that.
Any experienced GTP owner will tell you that GTP's are not good starter snakes. No matter how much literature you read in advance, you are a beginner until you've already kept a snake and faced and resolved real issues. You will make errors (everyone does) and learn things that aren't in books or published on threads in forums online, and GTP's are less forgiving of husbandry errors than ball pythons are.
My recommendation is that you start with a ball python (a corn snake may be even better for beginners, but if GTP is the direction you're headed, a ball python's care requirements are a little closer to a GTP's than a corn snake's requirements are). Make your mistakes on a species that is somewhat less likely to keel over as a result. Then, while you're taking care of your first ball pythons, get and read this book to prepare for eventual GTP ownership:
The More Complete Chondro
This is the best and most comprehensive book you can buy on GTP husbandry. The time to read it is before, not after, you have your first GTP, and in my opinion, it is best to have some snake keeping experience under your belt to fully appreciate the significance of the information it provides.
Good luck.
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BP_Lover
Joined: 18 Apr 2008
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Thanks for your input buck although I don't agree with it well i do It is just I don't believe i will make the mistakes some people do, because I know of allot of people here that didn't do there homework but don't worry bout it all I want is your input ( the reason i put the pst up) so thanks
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Buck_99
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| BP_Lover wrote: | | Thanks for your input buck although I don't agree with it well i do It is just I don't believe i will make the mistakes some people do, because I know of allot of people here that didn't do there homework but don't worry bout it all I want is your input ( the reason i put the pst up) so thanks |
It's cool, we're cool, I just couldn't have a clean conscience if I didn't caution you.
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Buck_99
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| BP_Lover wrote: | | It is just I don't believe i will make the mistakes some people do |
You may be right. The thing is, you'll make mistakes nobody else has made before. That's just part of snake ownership. All the prep in the world won't prepare you for everything.
My goal in writing these posts is to give you the BEST chance of success. Starting with the easier, more forgiving species gives you the best chance of success.
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JDS3
Joined: 29 Apr 2008
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Location: Ca
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| PlayBall wrote: | Voted for spider and normal.
Spiders have the best personality. You have to get used to their wobble, I think that's what makes them great (scary once you first get them)
Normals are always fun with all their different patterns and shades. |
Wait what "Spiders have the best personality" the morph a snake is has an affect on its personality?[/quote]
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jb.t3ch
Joined: 21 Nov 2006
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i say start with a corn snake or ball python. corns are easier to maintain but after you get ball pythons down packed they're pretty easy too. just read up and do your homework no matter what you decide.
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TeaTime
Joined: 02 Jun 2008
Posts: 59
Location: Puerto Rico
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I voted for the ball phyton.
A cornsnake would be a nice way to start you off too.
Since it is your first snake, it would be better/easier to start off with a begginer kind of animal rather than jumping right up to one that will require more care. 
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PlayBall
Joined: 11 Feb 2008
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Location: Chicago, IL
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| JDS3 wrote: | | PlayBall wrote: | Voted for spider and normal.
Spiders have the best personality. You have to get used to their wobble, I think that's what makes them great (scary once you first get them)
Normals are always fun with all their different patterns and shades. |
Wait what "Spiders have the best personality" the morph a snake is has an affect on its personality? |
I wrote that based on personal experience (not too much). I currently own 5 BPs a normal F, 2 pastels M n F, het pied M, and a spider M. I noticed that spider acts a little different than the others (i.e the way he moves of course, the way he hunts his pray, the way he balls up, and how playful he can be while handling him.) I don't really think morphs have to do anything with personality, but like most people know, spiders are known to wobble or spin or have their head in an angle most of the times, from severe to very minor cases. I think this is what makes them different, in a cool but weird way. I don't know if other spider owners will agree with me but like I said before this is just from my personal experience.
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PlayBall
Joined: 11 Feb 2008
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Back to the subject,
Since you don't have any hands on snake experience I would suggest starting with one bp or corn or kingsnake (a little tougher to handle than a corn when it first starts to get use to you).
Good luck!
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