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magana559
Joined: 29 Sep 2007
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| deborahbroadus wrote: | | magana559 wrote: | | Same Here, I Let My Balls Hang Out On My Neck All The Time.....I Dont Think Its A Big Deal.....C'mon How Strong Can A Ball Python Be? Nothing A Human Couldnt Over Power.....Right? |
I was looking for the resource that I quoted, and I can't find it. I retract my statement as I am not sure of my source anymore. However, I stand by the statement that I would not allow my snakes to constrict around my neck regardless.
There have been no deaths from strangulation from BPs, yet. However, they are stronger than they appear, and the reality is, if your neck is being constricted, you can be pretty weak if blood vessels are cut off. Whether or not their constriction has enough force to do this remains in question until someone is moronic enough to test the theory.  |
Well I Wouldnt Say It Would Be "Moronic" Because If It Wasnt For A Bunch Of "Moronic" People We Wouldnt Have Much Of Anything Today...Theres More Of A Risk Driving To Work Than Letting Your Ball Hang Out On Your Neck
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arlynos
Joined: 10 Mar 2008
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Location: whitney point, ny
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| Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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| magana559 wrote: | | deborahbroadus wrote: | | magana559 wrote: | | Same Here, I Let My Balls Hang Out On My Neck All The Time.....I Dont Think Its A Big Deal.....C'mon How Strong Can A Ball Python Be? Nothing A Human Couldnt Over Power.....Right? |
I was looking for the resource that I quoted, and I can't find it. I retract my statement as I am not sure of my source anymore. However, I stand by the statement that I would not allow my snakes to constrict around my neck regardless.
There have been no deaths from strangulation from BPs, yet. However, they are stronger than they appear, and the reality is, if your neck is being constricted, you can be pretty weak if blood vessels are cut off. Whether or not their constriction has enough force to do this remains in question until someone is moronic enough to test the theory. |
Well I Wouldnt Say It Would Be "Moronic" Because If It Wasnt For A Bunch Of "Moronic" People We Wouldnt Have Much Of Anything Today...Theres More Of A Risk Driving To Work Than Letting Your Ball Hang Out On Your Neck |
true that.
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deborahbroadus
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| Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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| magana559 wrote: | | deborahbroadus wrote: | | magana559 wrote: | | Same Here, I Let My Balls Hang Out On My Neck All The Time.....I Dont Think Its A Big Deal.....C'mon How Strong Can A Ball Python Be? Nothing A Human Couldnt Over Power.....Right? |
I was looking for the resource that I quoted, and I can't find it. I retract my statement as I am not sure of my source anymore. However, I stand by the statement that I would not allow my snakes to constrict around my neck regardless.
There have been no deaths from strangulation from BPs, yet. However, they are stronger than they appear, and the reality is, if your neck is being constricted, you can be pretty weak if blood vessels are cut off. Whether or not their constriction has enough force to do this remains in question until someone is moronic enough to test the theory. |
Well I Wouldnt Say It Would Be "Moronic" Because If It Wasnt For A Bunch Of "Moronic" People We Wouldnt Have Much Of Anything Today...Theres More Of A Risk Driving To Work Than Letting Your Ball Hang Out On Your Neck |
Comparing apples with oranges never works.  You don't have to call it moronic, it's MY opinion. 
p.s Putting a BP around ones neck has nothing to do with the kinds of risks that BENEFIT us.
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StuckInTheStargate
Joined: 04 May 2008
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I agree with Deb.
 (And it's important to define one's terms. I apologize for not doing that in the beginning; I'm speaking of having the snake at least one whole loop around your neck.)
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If Joan of Arc could turn the tide of an entire war before her 18th. birthday, you can get out of bed.
-E. Jean Carroll
1 beardie
1 ball python
5 hermit crabs
1 older sister 
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Archangel82
Joined: 23 Dec 2007
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Location: South Bend IN
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I dont know what "one loop" means. Please explain.
Also, I will place my snake around my neck like a necklace I guess you could call it especially if I am going to be moving around or walking around. He seems to like being elevated. I wouldnt put a snake as large as a burmese or even a Red Tail Boa female around my neck. eeeeks too scarry for me. Drake wont get to big for that or at least make me feel like he is a threat.
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SheilaR
Joined: 07 May 2008
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Location: New York
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one loop means like the snake's body is touching or a circle round ones neck i would say hope that makes sense think of it as a circle being a loop and a semi or 3/4 circle being almost a loop
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deborahbroadus
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| Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:25 am Post subject: |
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Ok, I spoke with another breeder about this situation and the verdict was:
| Quote: | My thoughts are split. While I think that the likelihood of injury from a BP is quite small, it isn't impossible. That said, the whole thing about the newbs trusting their snakes is foolish. Any problem that occured would not come from aggression, nor would it be from the snake choking them. A snake that starts to fall, or is made to feel nervous/uncomfortable, will try to secure his position.
The danger comes from occlusion of the carotid arteries (and yes, even occluding one can be bad - can you say stroke?). What might seem like nothing more than a bit of uncomfortable pressure, and be disregarded because it isn't making breathing particularly hard, is enough to compress the artery/arteries supplying the brain.
Now, IMO, BPs aren't particularly strong...nor are they really built for the kind of movement that would be most dangerous in that situation. Those things, combined with the relatively small size minimize the danger - but a 5 ft BP would be big enough if it got scared and tightened on the right spot |
ME: The "choking" does not have to be purposeful. The fact that the snake is falling, and tightening it's grip about the neck in an attempt at securing its hold results in a choke-hold.
I hope this answers some serious questions.
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Buck_99
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I for one resolve not to be the first BP fatality, freak occurrence though it would have to be. The rest of you yahoos can go ahead and compete for the Darwin award.
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a_green
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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Ouch! 
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StuckInTheStargate
Joined: 04 May 2008
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Archangel82, I say 'one loop' as in all the way around, or at least enough of a good start. SheilaR defined it really well. And it's so true that snakes could be not meaning to 'choke' you, they could just be holding on. That's the problem I have with it; even the nicest snakes could give you to much of an unintentionally harmful squeeze. 
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If Joan of Arc could turn the tide of an entire war before her 18th. birthday, you can get out of bed.
-E. Jean Carroll
1 beardie
1 ball python
5 hermit crabs
1 older sister
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Archangel82
Joined: 23 Dec 2007
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Location: South Bend IN
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I agree that it could happen. I have my snake around my neck a lot and maybe if he actually constricted I would pass out. He is only 8 months old so not that big. Maybe when he gets older he will squeeze to secure himself more. Maybe? or it just be a "tighter" squeeze because he is getting stronger/bigger. I feel pretty safe around him and if I didnt I probably shouldnt own a snake or any animal for that matter if I didnt feel safe.
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a_green
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Well I've been looking for an opportunity to bring this up... I think this is as good as it's going to get. This book keeps crossing my path at the library where I work, and it always makes me giggle.
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StuckInTheStargate
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Ha, that's genuinely funny 
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If Joan of Arc could turn the tide of an entire war before her 18th. birthday, you can get out of bed.
-E. Jean Carroll
1 beardie
1 ball python
5 hermit crabs
1 older sister
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Archangel82
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LoL. Nice pic. Perfect timing.
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deborahbroadus
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Good timing! Great pic.
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