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deborahbroadus
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 Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 6:29 pm Post subject: GRAVID! Eggs should be coming soon!! |
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Here's another of my sweeties!
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arlynos
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| Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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Beautiful, nice white belly
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deborahbroadus
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Yes, and this is going to be a surprise!!
So far, I have paired her with a
Spider
Pastel
Super Pastel
Mojave
I have no clue what is going to come out of her eggs. 
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GrayKat97
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It's a surprise package! Gotta love it!
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magana559
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Congrats!
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jb.t3ch
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| Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 8:53 am Post subject: |
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| deborahbroadus wrote: | Yes, and this is going to be a surprise!!
So far, I have paired her with a
Spider
Pastel
Super Pastel
Mojave
I have no clue what is going to come out of her eggs. |
this might be a bad question.
is it possible since a female can retain sperm for her to retain and since she has mated with other males, 2 sperm cells from different males to fertilize the same egg.. i know it would be one in a billion chance if even that low.
ok while i was posting i decided to check into my question.
heres a quote from a site i found
| Quote: | "Many species have ways of preventing more that one male from fertilizing an egg. For example, the human egg becomes almost entirely impermeable to another sperm once impregnation has occurred.
Some snakes have their own little trick for this as well. In some species, if the female mates with more than one male, the baby snakes will have more than one father. This is called superfecundation, and is common in many animal species.
A few snakes that prefer a more traditional arrangement have come up with their own way of ensuring that, after they impregnate a female snake, another snake doesn't come along and get the credit - or the baby. Once again, Chris Mattison is the one who revealed this interesting information in his book: The Encyclopedia of Snakes. It seems that some possessive male snakes actually plug up the females after mating, producing what are sort of snake-style "chastity belts." To make these, the male secretes a fluid that he deposits into the female immediately after he has placed his sperm in her. After a few minutes, the fluid hardens, forming a barrier to further impregnation by other males. "That way, no other male can replace, commingle, or dilute his sperm". |
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deborahbroadus
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That is funny.
The snake that plugs up the female so that HE can no longer have any fun either.
I think it's a bit different in BPs...do a research on BPs and not the general populaton of snakes or wild snakes. There have been reports of a clutch of eggs being fathered by different morphs. 
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RonCrawford
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Congrats Deb!
As far as jb.t3ch's question goes, ball pythons can have several sires to the clutch. When you breed co-doms/doms (like Deb did) it's okay because any normal in the clutch would be a normal based solely on the genetics (see Punnett Square).
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NickMyers03
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Location: fredericksburg va
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let me clear this up
Can there be 2 fathers in a sigle clutch of eggs?
YES, if you breed diffrent males to a female there is a CHANCE that each male could fertalize some eggs
Can 2 males fertalize the same egg? ( example = spider and Pastel males bred to a normal to be able to make a bumblebee...)
NO, NO, NO, NO
only ONE male can fertalize an egg. by the time the first sperm has entered the egg the rest are now useless ( as in humans)
with TWINs there is a chance to get a morph and a normal or 2 morphs in the same clutch... i have yet to see a clutch with twins that was fathered by more than one dad. there have been twins where one was a spider and one was a bumblebee ( dad= spider, mom =pastel) but again yet to see two dads fertalize one egg
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NickMyers03
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RON we posted at the same time...why did you have to beat me?
What Ron was talking about doms/co-doms is that you will either have a visual morph OR normal.... you dont want to breed a male recessive gene and male codom/ dom gene becaus if there is a "double clutch" ( more than on dad) then you dont know which ones could be hets or just normals
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