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Radical
Joined: 21 Aug 2006 Posts: 374 Location: Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 6:29 am Post subject: New Ball Bython |
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I just purchased my first ball python, currently it is about 5 months old, living in a 30 gallon aquarium (36*12) with a heating pad underneath, and a heat lamp.
Above the heat pad is his cave, in the middle is a large water dish, and on the other side is a 2 foot long wooden thing glued on a rock that goes up diagonally to just past half of the tank. The substrate I'm using is newspaper, one unfolded covering 2/3 of the tank, and another folded underneath the cave and above the heat pad.
I feed him a few days after receiving him from a breeder, but my first mistake was not using tongs/tweezers. I was dangling a f/t pinky by its tail with my fingers and that didn't go so well. He ended up nailing my middle finger and wrapping around tightly, I tried blowing on him to see if he would let go, but ended up having to unwrap him by the tail and once I got the majority of his body off he finally released, then blood started coming out of tiny tiny holes on my middle finger :? .
After learning my lesson from the stupid feeding error, I used tweezers and everything went well.
The snake is very very easy to handle, hasn't attempted to bite my hand when I was reaching in to pick him up, or acting aggressive while I was holding him. The snake has been in my possession for about a week now, and before it would usually tuck his head underneath his body whenever I would touch his head, but will now let me rub his head/underneath with little to no problem.
I have been maintaining the temperature inside the tank to about 28 degrees average, but my room gets fairly hot sometimes and it rises to about 32-33 by the time I wake up in the morning, but about an hour after that when I get the fan going the temperature usually drops back down.
The snake doesn't appear to have any bugs, sometimes it sounds like he breathes out in a hurry so you hear a type of pout (this is very occasional, like once every few days maybe), and when I bought him a week ago he just finished shedding, there was some skin still left around his head/neck and a bit on his eye, but that was all rubbed off within the first 30 minutes when I put him into his new tank. Also a few days after he ate, he left a nice present for me underneath his cave.
If I had to guess, the snake would be around 2 feet long, maybe a bit more, and at the widest about 5-6 inches girth around the large part of his belly.
So if you're still reading my novel, I have some questions.
What size food should I be feeding him, and how often?
Currently I'm using water from the tap, will that harm the snake in any way?
Is it fine to maintain a temperature around 27-30 degrees without letting it drop much lower than that?
How often should the snake be handled? Could he be handled too much?
I was told by the breeder that it was a male, but a girl at the pet store told me she thought it was a female, is there any way to accurately determine the sex?
Alright, thanks, that's my story, I'll be posting some pictures of the snake and aquarium when I can get ahold of the digital camera, but I believe I described the setup in a fair amount of detail.
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Radical
Joined: 21 Aug 2006 Posts: 374 Location: Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 7:43 am Post subject: |
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Here's a picture of him in my hand, I took this with my webcam so it's not the greatest quality.

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slitheringin
Joined: 25 Jul 2006 Posts: 378 Location: Mountain Home Arkansas
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Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 9:27 am Post subject: |
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From what I can tell, he's a good looking boy/girl. You're lucky; when I tried to take a pic, Shifty just poked his/her head under his/her belly and hid 
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lindsey_marshall00
Joined: 05 Jul 2006 Posts: 568
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Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 9:34 am Post subject: |
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Peanut loves his picture taken-- our little show off. 8)
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Radical
Joined: 21 Aug 2006 Posts: 374 Location: Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 10:10 am Post subject: |
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| slitheringin wrote: | From what I can tell, he's a good looking boy/girl. You're lucky; when I tried to take a pic, Shifty just poked his/her head under his/her belly and hid  |
Yeah, my snake tries to hide his head sometimes, but after he realises I'm not a threat he usually comes out of his ball and starts to wander around.
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Radical
Joined: 21 Aug 2006 Posts: 374 Location: Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 2:22 am Post subject: |
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Here's an overview of the full setup.
Here's the snake.
Here is the cave.
And here is the stick/water dish.

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stumpy_wigmaker
Joined: 23 Aug 2006 Posts: 127
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Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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Hey radical, beautiful looking snake! Hey where did you get the log and water dish? I love that set-up and have been looking everywhere for something similar but with no luck! Any help on where to find ether would be great!!!!
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Jordan700
Joined: 29 May 2006 Posts: 1048 Location: Petaluma, California
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Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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You can feed him something that is as big around as him, or a bit bigger.
I use tap water (from a well) and I have seen no problems.
The temp is about 82F. That is fine, but shouldn't go much lower.
You can handle the snake every day, as long as you havn't fed it within the last 48 hours. If the snake stops eating, you may only want to handle it every other day or less.
The best way to sex it, is to probe it. Or you can use the popping method. Take a look at Ron's main site. He has some useful articles on there. http://www.rcreptiles.com/articles/snake-sexing-methods.html
Hope this helps! 
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Jordan700
Joined: 29 May 2006 Posts: 1048 Location: Petaluma, California
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Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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I have the same water dish. I got it from Petco about 6 years ago. It weighs a lot, and so people don't usally want to ship it. But you might be able to pick one up at Petco. 
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Radical
Joined: 21 Aug 2006 Posts: 374 Location: Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 9:59 am Post subject: |
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I picked up the log, dish, and cave all at super pet.
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deborahbroadus Moderator

Joined: 16 Jul 2006 Posts: 6680 Location: Baltimore, MD
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Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 11:10 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | What size food should I be feeding him, and how often? |
I agree with Jordan. The food should be no wider around than the snake at its widest girth.
| Quote: | | Currently I'm using water from the tap, will that harm the snake in any way? |
There are some that disagree, but I say no. However, the dissenters made ME nervous, so I do give Spring water periodically.
| Quote: | | Is it fine to maintain a temperature around 27-30 degrees without letting it drop much lower than that? |
Let me just add to Jordan's post, it should have a hot spot of 90-92 and the cool spot can be the range that Jordan stated. I do have a question..is that thermometer that you have pasted on the glass the only one? We have several posts stating that they are not accurate for monitoring the substrate on which the snake is. They are good for ambivent temperature, but actually do not monitor how hot it is at the snake's level..which is our concern. I am not an AcruRite marketing/seller! But they are actually the best inexpensive thermometers for these kinds of snakes. They have both the humidity and temp sensing capabilites and can tell the temps at both ends of the tank by means of the probe that is laid along the bottom of the tank and covered with a bit of substrate.
| Quote: | | How often should the snake be handled? Could he be handled too much? |
Handle as much as you desire (some may disagree and they are welcome to provide their opinions and facts)...with respect to feeding downtime and shedding. No, you can not handle "too" much. You will have a hand-tame snake (but still a snake and not predictable). Just go easy since it's so young...pay attention to the sides..they bellow in and out rapidly (breathing) when they are stressed or frightened..and act accordingly.
| Quote: | | I was told by the breeder that it was a male, but a girl at the pet store told me she thought it was a female, is there any way to accurately determine the sex? |
If you don't know how, until you learn..if you want it done quickly..get it Vet checked. I did. 
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Radical
Joined: 21 Aug 2006 Posts: 374 Location: Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 11:25 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, it's a thermometer stuck to the glass, I just take that as an average temperature and assume that the side with the UTH is the warmer end, and the other side the cooler end.
Although I'll most likely take your advice and get the other kind.
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