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rayaustin
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 Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 12:29 am Post subject: 100% Het Albino Balls |
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Hi everyone,
just trying to get some clarification on 100% Het for Albinos. I've been looking into picking a pair or two and have noticed a lot of breeders selling 100% hets for very reasonable prices however, my concern is that they may not be hets and I do realize that when you buy hets you are always taking a chance with the genetics.
If the adult breeders to produce these hets were an Adult Albino male bred to a Normal female wouldn't you get possible hets instead of 100% hets? Just curious.
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RonCrawford
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| Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 1:00 am Post subject: Re: 100% Het Albino Balls |
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| rayaustin wrote: | Hi everyone,
just trying to get some clarification on 100% Het for Albinos. I've been looking into picking a pair or two and have noticed a lot of breeders selling 100% hets for very reasonable prices however, my concern is that they may not be hets and I do realize that when you buy hets you are always taking a chance with the genetics.
If the adult breeders to produce these hets were an Adult Albino male bred to a Normal female wouldn't you get possible hets instead of 100% hets? Just curious. |
Albino to normal produces 100% hets. Het to het produces possible hets.
Hope this helps.
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rayaustin
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Location: Fort Drum, New York
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| Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 1:05 am Post subject: Re: 100% Het Albino Balls |
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Ron,
thanks for the information. I'm a lot less hesitant to purchase het for albinos now.
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RonCrawford
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| Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 1:10 am Post subject: Re: 100% Het Albino Balls |
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| rayaustin wrote: | Ron,
thanks for the information. I'm a lot less hesitant to purchase het for albinos now. |
You really have to be careful these days. What's to stop someone from buying a normal and making a KILLER PROFIT by marketing them as hets? Buyer beware!
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ted1025
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I would make sure to get some refferences on the guy before you buy anything...
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deborahbroadus
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| Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 11:57 am Post subject: |
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| ted1025 wrote: | | I would make sure to get some refferences on the guy before you buy anything... |
OR just purchase from Ron (if he has any) or he can lead you to them. No risk then! 
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boafa
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I have 1.1 hets for pied, which is a recessive gene trait.....so won't a clutch of hets to hets produce ..... 25% chance of normals, 50% chance of hets and 25% chance of homos.....and are those percentages per clutch or per egg........
just for simplicity......lets say I have a clutch of 4 eggs.....1 normal, 2 hets, and 1 homo.....wouldn't the following be true.....
the normals should be 66% possible for hets....
the hets should be 100% hets.......
the homo's should be the visual morph
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deborahbroadus
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| Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 10:24 am Post subject: |
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| boafa wrote: | I have 1.1 hets for pied, which is a recessive gene trait.....so won't a clutch of hets to hets produce ..... 25% chance of normals, 50% chance of hets and 25% chance of homos.....and are those percentages per clutch or per egg........
just for simplicity......lets say I have a clutch of 4 eggs.....1 normal, 2 hets, and 1 homo.....wouldn't the following be true.....
the normals should be 66% possible for hets....
the hets should be 100% hets.......
the homo's should be the visual morph |
Ron? 
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boafa
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Albino is also a recessive gene...... and I think the way recessive gene traits work is......if you breed a visual albino (homozygous) to a normal...... all offspring will be 100% het for that gene.......
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deborahbroadus
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| boafa wrote: | | Albino is also a recessive gene...... and I think the way recessive gene traits work is......if you breed a visual albino (homozygous) to a normal...... all offspring will be 100% het for that gene....... |
Correct. Jordan, anyone disagree? 
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ted1025
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| boafa wrote: | I have 1.1 hets for pied, which is a recessive gene trait.....so won't a clutch of hets to hets produce ..... 25% chance of normals, 50% chance of hets and 25% chance of homos.....and are those percentages per clutch or per egg........
just for simplicity......lets say I have a clutch of 4 eggs.....1 normal, 2 hets, and 1 homo.....wouldn't the following be true.....
the normals should be 66% possible for hets....
the hets should be 100% hets.......
the homo's should be the visual morph |
That is wrong, what you *should* get is 1 Pied Ball and 3 normal looking snakes with 2 of them being 66% poss. hets.
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boafa
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i see
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RonCrawford
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| ted1025 wrote: | | boafa wrote: | I have 1.1 hets for pied, which is a recessive gene trait.....so won't a clutch of hets to hets produce ..... 25% chance of normals, 50% chance of hets and 25% chance of homos.....and are those percentages per clutch or per egg........
just for simplicity......lets say I have a clutch of 4 eggs.....1 normal, 2 hets, and 1 homo.....wouldn't the following be true.....
the normals should be 66% possible for hets....
the hets should be 100% hets.......
the homo's should be the visual morph |
That is wrong, what you *should* get is 1 Pied Ball and 3 normal looking snakes with 2 of them being 66% poss. hets. |
Yep, what he said. 
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deborahbroadus
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That's what I THOUGHT he said?
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Moshi
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| Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 11:26 am Post subject: |
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well, all three normals would be 66% possable hets. But two of them should turn out to be hets while the other is just a normal right?
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