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Buck_99 Moderator

Joined: 03 Nov 2006 Posts: 1358 Location: Midlothian, VA
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 11:17 am Post subject: Va Herp Society Annual Spring Survey Pics (DUW) - Part 2 |
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During our herping trip we camped out at Newport News Park, and we also did a half-day survey there on Sunday. The habitat was a bottomland creek. We were fortunate to be guided by an employee of the park whose job it is to study cottonmouths, so he's regarded as the expert in the area on the species. On Sunday we decided not to cheat by using his telemetry equipment to find individuals that he's put radio emitters in, so we were left to count on our senses.
Junior herpetologist Liv at camp:
Southern leopard frog:
This is the habitat we were up against. We didn't have boats so we walked around it, though sometimes we waded in. Even the "dry" area around it was 4" thick mud. Squishy, smelly stuff.
You may remember from one of my posts last year that I like taking pictures of racers. Once again, you can spot yours truly in the reflection of this black racer's eye:
Here's another racer. This one gave us a merry chase, just like in an Austin Stevens show, except without the multiple camera angles and the staged pursuit. A 13-year old kid and I ran 40 yards after this guy, and the kid beat the old man to the punch, making a phenomenal diving catch just as the snake was disappearing under some roots:
The racer had a weird absess on its side. It felt "juicy". We had multiple theories. I believe it had a sizeable tick beneath its scales, but we'll never know:
We caught a nice black rat snake out there too. To give you an idea about the muck we were working in, when we put the snake on the ground, he dove right into the mud. He only made it in about 12". Not a very effective escape tactic, but entertaining:
Finally, yours truly made the find of the day, a sub-adult cottonmouth, still sporting a good deal of its juvenile coloring:
Unfortunately, while I awaited the arrival of someone with tongs, I was trying to avoid sudden movements that might scare her off (she was half in the water). So I didn't get my camera on her in time to catch her beautiful, white-mouthed threat display.
18 months and 6 herping trips after purchasing my tubes, I finally got a chance to use them:
The cottonmouth turned out to be a female. I also grabbed this shot to show how irridescent she was on her belly:
Herping also makes you thirsty. The cottonmouth expert poured me a cup of porter, the best I've ever had. It's out of Black Mountain, NC. If anyone knows how to find this stuff short of driving to Black Mountain, please let me know:
* Edited to clarify the species of snake that burrowed into the mud.
* Edited to change Blackwater to Black Mountain
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deborahbroadus Moderator

Joined: 16 Jul 2006 Posts: 6872 Location: Baltimore, MD
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 11:41 am Post subject: |
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Liv has my respect!
While I love and respect snakes, I am too "girly" to want to be in any muddy muck! * I would have to have
waist high wadders with steel inserts from toe to knee
shoulder length rubber gloves
misquito net helmet.
and I still might not go!
But I would have stopped by later for the "party" part! 
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magana559
Joined: 29 Sep 2007 Posts: 1132
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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Nice Nice Nice! Sounds Like You And your Family Had A Great time!
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hhmoore
Joined: 24 Nov 2007 Posts: 532
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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Looks like a fun time...even before the Porter (I may have to look into that, based on your praise...but what is it?)
Did you put that cottonmouth in the tube yourself, lol?
*nevermind - I looked it up...the look of the bottle threw me
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Number 2
Joined: 29 Jul 2007 Posts: 545 Location: Kaukauna, WI
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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Very cool Scott! I'm way jealous AGAIN!
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MikeandSlick
Joined: 07 Aug 2007 Posts: 234 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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Here's a quote from my herping trip thread:
| Buck_99 wrote: | I have no trouble finding turtles and frogs, but snakes always elude me.
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Looks like your luck has changed 
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PyMama
Joined: 10 Oct 2006 Posts: 1646
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Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 1:58 am Post subject: |
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a cottonmouth...
Looks like a lot of fun!!!
What were some of Livies comments?
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deborahbroadus Moderator

Joined: 16 Jul 2006 Posts: 6872 Location: Baltimore, MD
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Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 8:47 am Post subject: |
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| PyMama wrote: | a cottonmouth...
What were some of Livies comments? |
"DAD!! How much longer is this pic gonna take?? The Snakes are getting away!!"
"DAD!, Stop screaming, the Cottonmouth can't get you now!"

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Buck_99 Moderator

Joined: 03 Nov 2006 Posts: 1358 Location: Midlothian, VA
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Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 10:38 am Post subject: |
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| MikeandSlick wrote: | Here's a quote from my herping trip thread:
| Buck_99 wrote: | I have no trouble finding turtles and frogs, but snakes always elude me.
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Looks like your luck has changed  |
Yeah, apparently so! Funny, the first day, the only hot found was spotted by another group. "Looks like I picked the wrong group again," I said. Then on Sunday the expert hopped out of his car and proclaimed, "I'm going to be first to spot one!" All I could think was, Go for it, dude. I just want to see one whether I find it or not.
It all worked out.
| PyMama wrote: | | What were some of Livies comments? |
Most of the first day she didn't find anything and I could tell she was disappointed, but she never complained. She was proud that she was the one who caught the 5-lined skink and the rough green snake, even though they were both spotted by others. Later on she found and caught the orange headed box turtle and a worm snake by herself, and she was satisfied.
On Sunday she didn't find anything but she enjoyed the mud. My guess is that she's grateful she didn't find a cottonmouth.
She was afraid for me when I found the cottonmouth. Everyone else was spread out at the water's edge, but I had ventured out about 20' on a tree that had fallen into the water. I found the snake near the end of it and called out, "Cottonmouth! Cottonmouth!"
From Liv's point of view I must have appeared to be in a precarious spot, and with me yelling "cottonmouth" she might have misinterpreted my urgency for alarm. She cried out to me, "Be careful Daddy! Don't get too close! Be careful!" She was clearly worried. I wasn't worried for myself because I was a good 4'+ away, I had my field hook between it and me, and my positioning and center of gravity were such that I could retreat easily. I was calling for the others urgently, though, because I was certain she (the snake) was going to slip away. Since I was way out on the log, it took longer than I would have liked for them to arrive. It seemed like forever before the tongs arrived. Fortunately cottonmouths behave differently than water snakes and tend to stand their ground rather than immediately flee.
| hhmoore wrote: | | Did you put that cottonmouth in the tube yourself, lol? |
No. I was content to let the professional do it. Spotting it was good enough for me.
I did catch video of the tubing. I'll edit it tonight maybe and post it.
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