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Monty is my Python



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 6:24 pm    Post subject: mojave to leucistic... Reply with quote


so how exactly do you produce a leucistic... Is it mojave to mojave or mojave to normal? what the deal?


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mojave x mojave or mojave x lesser platinum Cool


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

snakesRkewl wrote:
mojave x mojave or mojave x lesser platinum Cool


True Verry True. Smile


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

there are MANY ways to do it now.

Mojave X Mojave ( white with purple/brown head)
Lesser X Lesser
Russo X Russo
Mojave X Lesser
Mojave X Russo
Lesser X Russo
lesser pied X Pied ( believe it or not its an all white snake)
Lesser het pied X pied
Lesser Het Pied X Het pied
( mojave het pied X Pied hasnt been done yet)
Phantom X Lesser ( Karma)
( Phantom X Mojave hasnt been done...i may be wrong)

and there are a few more i do believe but you get the gist


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Monty is my Python



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

so am I right in thinking mojave or lesser x normal would only produce a mojave or lesser respectively.... but no leucistic?


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No lucy's from a normal, correct, and sweet list nick, I knew there was more Cool

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

didn't know there could be so many pairings to get a lucy

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NickMyers03



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks...yeah i read WAY to much when it comes to morphs

Lesser X normal = normals and lessers
Mojave X normal = Normals and Mojaves

some think that the base color of most morphs or genes in general will come done to 2 genes...all black or all white.

the super black pastel albino has been made now and its also an all white snake with red eyes. but to make one of these takes time.....lots of time

black pastel to albino = 100% het albinos and black pastels 100% het albino

now you can go two ways with this you can breed the black pastel het albino to an albino and make albino black pastels OR you can breed 2 of the black pastels het albino to each other and try your odds. ill go with breeding a black pastel het albino to albino ( as males can breed faster than females who can take 2+ years to get to size)...now so the next year you get lucky and hit the odds on the black pastel albino ( hope its a male). breed that black pastel albino when breeding size to one of the ORG black pastel het albino females ( if one was produced ) and again hope on the odds.

so your looking at 2-3 years if you have a breedable black pastel male and albino female

if not add 2+ years to let the female get to size and male too.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent info Nick Cool

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What Is A Phantom?

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fun stuff woot

PHANTOM / SUPER PHANTOM
Co-dominant color and pattern mutation / Dominant color and pattern mutation

BLUE-EYED LEUCISTICS = PHANTOM X LESSER PLATINUM
PHANTOM YELLOW BELLY(GOBLIN) = PHANTOM X YELLOW BELLY
PHANTOM PASTEL = PHANTOM X PASTEL
SUPER PHANTOM = PHANTOM X PHANTOM
SUPER PHANTOM GOBLIN = PHANTOM GOBLIN X PHANTOM GOBLIN


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is a Russo?

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From russo's webpage

In the 2002 Breeding Season I was very Fortunate enough to hatch a Blue Eyed Leucistic Ball Python "White Diamond" from 2 of my "High Yellow Lemon" Ball Pythons. The High Yellow Lemons are a Incomplete Dominant trait and when bred together produce Proven Genetic Leucistic Ball Pythons. Since the name "Lemon Ball" is a little confusing ( and since there are a few white snake producing Ball Pythons out there ) I decided to simply call these yellow colored Ball pythons "Russo Line Het Leucistics". When you breed a "Russo Line Het Leucistic" to a normal Ball Python you will get half a clutch of visible Het Lemon yellow colored Ball Pythons or Russo Line hets ( Proven here in 1998 ). These Hets are beautiful in their own right and are very distinguishable from their normal litter mates. The Leucistics that these produce have deep Blue eyes that almost look through you and a pure white color over the entire snake - these are named "White Diamonds".

Google images for one of those Cool

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dont forget to put mystics in there now... they are thought to be the new line of phantoms and should be proven this year...

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How do you get the white sankes with the black eyes

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