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SheilaR
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| a_green wrote: | Wow, popular problem! I'm suddenly less worried.  |
your less worried guess i should be the same  or not 
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pdig69
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You guys know your snakes very well in terms of behavior and how they usually react to you. If you start to see them acting abnormal, like not seeing them out and about when you usually do, or not exploring like they usually do when you hold them, then something may be wrong. It isn't always a major problem, I'm sure snakes get sick just like us.
I'd change the environment around a bit, see how he reacts. Like move the hide hole facing another way, things as subtle as this you can see changes in your BP's behavior. It may change up his cycle of living and he'll resume back to normal possibly.
Just an idea, but changing the environment, you will definetly see changes in behavior. He will definetly come out and explore everything since its in a new position. If he isn't feeling well, you'll know.
One thing I've noticed over the past few weeks, they go absolutely crazy over a fan! I have my fan timed during the day and during the night. When this fan is on, they are all over the tank, every single one think it's their time to escape! Try a little fan, see if your bp's come out. They will want to explore every inch of the top of your enclosure. I would think, if they are sick then they won't act the way they should, and I'm sure you'll be able to tell.
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ryancbj22
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| Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 11:51 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | One thing I've noticed over the past few weeks, they go absolutely crazy over a fan! |
A fan? Are you placing a fan in the tank or pointing one on the tank?
Where in the world would you get the idea to put a fan on the tank or in it?
I don't understand why you would put a fan on your tank! All that would do is push out the ambient air and make it cooler.
Anyway's A_Green I don't think I would worry to much! I have a couple that are off feed and haven't pooped in a month or two. When mine do eat they poop about 4days after eating maybe a week tops. I have one that poops every 4days after eating, but if he is going into shed then he won't poop or eat until after he shed's. I usually find the skin and the poop under the hide at the same time. If they don't eat they really don't have anything to poop so that's probably why your not seeing anything. So to answer your question they do digest that fast all of my snake's poop within a week after eating unless there going into shed then they hold off.
I don't think I would change the enviornment around unless you feel there is something wrong. I don't know where Pdig69 get's this info, but I would just ignore it. You've had your snake in that enviornment for that long there's no reason to change it now unless you feel there is something wrong! One thing i've learned is you can't force bp's to do anything they don't want too. Changing the enviornment may make them come out and explore around, but that doesn't answer your question or solve any problems. All that does is add stress to the snake because now he's wondering why things changed all the sudden.
Pdig69 like I said I don't know where your getting your info, but I would keep any suggestions you have to yourself from now on. Your not doing anything, but giving bad advice if you want to do and try these things on your bp's I wouldn't reccomend it, but it's your choice just don't pass it on to other's. If you have questions or concern's we'll be more than happy to answer them in the best way possible, and you can take the advice how you want. Everytime you post a reply to someone's thread someone else has to go right behind you and correct it. It's not helping any and creating problems for other people.
Thanks if you would like to make a response about what I just wrote than please PM me don't extend this thread and take it off subject. Thanks
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pdig69
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| Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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I was waiting for someone LIKE YOU to blow it out of proportion... I said, things as subtle as placing the hide hole in a different location...You want to observe your bp's behavior to see if he is acting normally. And my crazy fan idea...well, i guess you don't give your bp's some fresh air every once in awhile to understand this.
| Quote: | | I don't think I would change the enviornment around unless you feel there is something wrong. |
I;m thinking you mean, wrong with the environment, but if there is something wrong with your bp, you can switch something up and just observe how he acts. It serves as a basis to understand how the bp is feeling, if it's sick, then you may be able to pick up on signs.
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pdig69
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| Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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Take it or leave it, I was trying think outside of the box for any helpful suggestions. As for you Ryan, you can keep your one ball python experience to yourself, your opinions are also meaningless to me.
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deborahbroadus
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| Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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| pdig69 wrote: | You guys know your snakes very well in terms of behavior and how they usually react to you. If you start to see them acting abnormal, like not seeing them out and about when you usually do, or not exploring like they usually do when you hold them, then something may be wrong. It isn't always a major problem, I'm sure snakes get sick just like us.
I'd change the environment around a bit, see how he reacts. Like move the hide hole facing another way, things as subtle as this you can see changes in your BP's behavior. It may change up his cycle of living and he'll resume back to normal possibly.
Just an idea, but changing the environment, you will definetly see changes in behavior. He will definetly come out and explore everything since its in a new position. If he isn't feeling well, you'll know.
One thing I've noticed over the past few weeks, they go absolutely crazy over a fan! I have my fan timed during the day and during the night. When this fan is on, they are all over the tank, every single one think it's their time to escape! Try a little fan, see if your bp's come out. They will want to explore every inch of the top of your enclosure. I would think, if they are sick then they won't act the way they should, and I'm sure you'll be able to tell. |
69, I agree with Ryan that the fan is a bad idea.
There is enough air exchange without that putting a fan on a timer in the tank or in anyway connected to the tank or rack. Simply opening the tub gives an air exchange. Now if you want to circulate the air in the room without a direct connect to the tubs this would be fine. However, the bolded statement above indicates that your animals may be stressed by the fan.
Thinking outside the box is fine, but when we think outside the box it has to still be in direct relation to what's IN the box. 
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ryancbj22
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| Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | I was waiting for someone LIKE YOU to blow it out of proportion... |
Well we can do it here if you prefer! Your idea's and suggestions are off the wall...
| Quote: | | I said, things as subtle as placing the hide hole in a different location |
Why would you need to change your bp's enviornment to observe things? That makes no sense at all. Whether it's subtle or not. I don't even know how to approach this. It's so off the wall. There are a thousand ways to monitor a bp's behavior with out changing things that just adds to the confusion of not knowing what's going on already.
| Quote: | And my crazy fan idea...well, i guess you don't give your bp's some fresh air every once in awhile to understand this.
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LOL fresh air? That's a new one. Again I don't even know where to start with this. Maybe if I can stop laughing long enough to type i'll try. As I said you do as you see fit, but I would start a thread, or post a poll and ask anyone how many time's they've stuck a fan on there snake for fresh air!
| Quote: | | I;m thinking you mean, wrong with the environment, but if there is something wrong with your bp, you can switch something up and just observe how he acts. It serves as a basis to understand how the bp is feeling, if it's sick, then you may be able to pick up on signs. |
I could see changing things if maybe the temps are wrong or your having problems with humidity. Maybe you have a hide that you feel isn't sufficent for your bp then I could see changing the enviornment. Your suggestion is not changing the enviornment it's re-arranging furniture. Why couldn't you observe things the way they are? Why not handle your snake and observe if there is any change in it's behavior or obvious signs of an illness. Your not resolving anything by moving the hide box or a plant or whatever you have in there. Your just forcing them to do different things the variables don't add up in that. It's not a plausible test there's to many variables that interact with other behavior's..
| Quote: | | As for you Ryan, you can keep your one ball python experience to yourself, your opinions are also meaningless to me. |
Where in the world do you come up with these things. ONE BALL PYTHON EXPERIENCE? I MAY BE MISTAKEN, BUT HOW MANY SNAKE'S DO YOU OWN. I'VE BEEN DEALING WITH SNAKE'S FOR A COUNTLESS NUMBER OF YEAR'S NOW. I HAVE WAY MORE THAN ONE BP AND NOT TO MENTION THE OTHER SPECIE'S OF SNAKE'S THAT I CAN'T EVEN KEEP TRACK OF HALF THE TIME. SO I'VE PROBABLY HAD MORE BALL PYTHON EXPERIENCE'S IN THE LAST 12 HOURS THAN YOU'VE HAD IN A MONTH. IF MY OPINIONS ARE MEANINGLESS TO YOU THAT'S GREAT, BUT NOW YOU KNOW HOW WE FEEL WHEN YOU POST THINGS LIKE THIS.
Do us all a favor and stop sucking up space on this thread and PM with your argument's i'd be happy to continue it there. This is exactly what I didn't want was to take this completely off topic. Hope this helps thanks.
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deborahbroadus
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| Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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Guys we can take this to chat. 
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hhmoore
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| Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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CHAT FIGHT!!!
I'm there, front row center...maybe I'll get to bean somebody with some popcorn
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hhmoore
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What a disappointment...I was there for a few before I posted my previous comment hoping to get the participants amped. We hung around for half an hour more, but the audience has now dispersed - somebody neglected to show. I didn't get to throw popcorn - well, one handful at Deb, just because - nothing got settled, and I didn't even get to shout obscenities (again, once at Deb, but that got zapped by the filter)
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deborahbroadus
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| Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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The filter is your FRIEND.
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magana559
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| Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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Aww I Missed This!
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SheilaR
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| Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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ok i just read all that took place and wow and well i came home from work today to a nice little poop in the corner of the tank i ws actually happy to see poop for once oh and guys cleaning i noticed she has like a bluish glow to her scales like in a recent pic posted anyone know why that happened i never saw that before????
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deborahbroadus
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| Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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| SheilaR wrote: | | ok i just read all that took place and wow and well i came home from work today to a nice little poop in the corner of the tank i ws actually happy to see poop for once oh and guys cleaning i noticed she has like a bluish glow to her scales like in a recent pic posted anyone know why that happened i never saw that before???? |
IMO, a bluish tint is a sign of scale health. Shiny firm scales that are well hydrated usually display a tint.
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pdig69
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I logged off after my post, no chat for me...as for my ideas...being off the wall, you Ryan should be last to speak...you PM people so your ideas aren't riticuled on here...its ok. you probably don't even know what you say, so I can't pick you apart.
If you ever put a fan inside your tank, I would take my aggresive male and let him bite your ass, for you being an ass. Take a step back and stop thinking the worst. 
Maybe it doesn't need to be rushed to an animal hospital that same day. It could be possible that all it takes is some simple advice to make someone else feel better. Maybe the knowledge of the bp not acting funny is enough to prove there are no problems... Fans (that aren't inside or rigged to the tank  ) make snakes search their tank..so you know. So does moving something as simple as the hide hole 90 degrees makes them curious. Either way, its obvious that not pooping and not shedding isn't the worst pre-cursor for a disease, so telling someone to have their snake active to prove there aren't problems is not creating problems that others have to fix...
If you have such a grudge with people that supposedly create problems, why don't you utilize your time and find that guy that hammered 6 nails into a ball python on the side of a telephone pole in Lawrence, Massachutes..you'd make yourself useful...because so far..there are two posts in this thread that are a waste of space..stick to your pms buddy.... and the other species of snakes you own, it doesnt seem like you own any ball pythons..
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