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Struck, but then did not eat

 
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dbvol26



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 10:10 pm    Post subject: Struck, but then did not eat Reply with quote


Our 8 month old ball has eaten consistently each week and has shed 2 times since we have had him ( 6 months). Last night, he struck the frozen/thawed mouse, wrapped him up and we figured all is well. But this morning, the mouse was still in the aquarium! Just wondering what may have caused this. I removed the mouse and have not given him another. Nothing has changed including size of the mouse or anything. He is about to shed but since he came right out and struck as usual i figured it the upcoming shed had nothing to do with it.


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RonCrawford
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had several bp's strike, constrict and leave it there. Why? I have no idea.

Try offering a food item to your snake after it comes out of shed. I usually don't offer food when they are in shed. Some will eat but the majority don't.

I've got a theory about why they sometimes strike, coil and don't eat but I'm still working on gathering data to try to prove it out.
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deborahbroadus
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 2:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RonCrawford wrote:
I've had several bp's strike, constrict and leave it there. Why? I have no idea.

Try offering a food item to your snake after it comes out of shed. I usually don't offer food when they are in shed. Some will eat but the majority don't.

I've got a theory about why they sometimes strike, coil and don't eat but I'm still working on gathering data to try to prove it out.


I'll be interested in hearing your theory!
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lindsey_marshall00



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would changing the food item change this problem? Like trying gerbiles or other small prey? I know I would get rather tired of eating mice every meal.
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Radical



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Snakes aren't very bright though, the food they eat is usually smarter than the snake.

Maybe the snake wants a smaller prey, or maybe it just wasn't hungry at that time and was just doing what it's natural instincts told it to.
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lindsey_marshall00



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fang has only killed one and did not eat. I then went the next day and bought a small rat kinda thing and he ate it all.. By the way if the prey that a snake eats is smarter than the snake, why does it get eaten?
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Radical



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lindsey_marshall00 wrote:
Fang has only killed one and did not eat. I then went the next day and bought a small rat kinda thing and he ate it all.. By the way if the prey that a snake eats is smarter than the snake, why does it get eaten?


The same reason people sometimes get eaten by creatures in the wild.

One species may be more intelligent but that doesn't mean it will be physically dominant.
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lindsey_marshall00



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is from not paying attention, not from being stupider (not sure if that is a word-well it is for today). No not physically dom. just full till their next meal.
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Radical



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not exactly sure about what you were trying to say there.

But if you were being chased down by a hungry cougar, I doubt that paying attention would save you from the inevitable.
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slitheringin



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That is from not paying attention, not from being stupider (not sure if that is a word-well it is for today). No not physically dom. just full till their next meal.


The bear is hungry. If the bear was not hungry (or not protecting cubs or territory) then the bear would probably not be interested in a human and would move off.
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lindsey_marshall00



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

no but paying attention before hand might have kept you from being chased be a hungry cougar.. ex. would you go fishing without a pole??
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slitheringin



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorrry, Radical, that was cougar, not bear.
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Radical



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well the original question was if the prey is smarter, why does it get eaten?

Simply put, the prey is on the lower end of the food chain, even if it is smarter.

The only reason we're on the top of the food chain is because our intelligence has allowed us to overcome predators with weaponry, but if we were a head on battle with say a bear or a cougar, chances are you're going to get killed or severely mauled.
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deborahbroadus
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Radical wrote:
Well the original question was if the prey is smarter, why does it get eaten?

Simply put, the prey is on the lower end of the food chain, even if it is smarter.

The only reason we're on the top of the food chain is because our intelligence has allowed us to overcome predators with weaponry, but if we were a head on battle with say a bear or a cougar, chances are you're going to get killed or severely mauled.


Might makes right...in other words...The stronger you are..it doesn't make any difference if the prey is smarter..if it doesn't have the tools to fight off the predator. Laughing Laughing
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