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valiant
Joined: 26 Dec 2006 Posts: 64 Location: Tacoma, Wa
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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 11:10 pm Post subject: making a custom top |
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well, I have been having trouble setting up my small 10g tank, but it was too small anyway for a ball, so I went out into our garage and found an old tank we had out there. it is about the size of a 20g L tank.
we have some scrap plywood out there too and just for fun, I took one that was about the same size as the top and layed it into the groove. it fits pretty tightly, just need to trim it a little to fit length wise.
what i am wondering is if plywood is ok to use as a top? does anyone have any ideas to make a safe way to vent the top, it is a glass aquarium so it vents through the top. I am not really worried about how it looks just as long as it is escape proof and safe for the snake.
I have a plan to keep it shut using some straps to secure it to the stand I am using.
anything I am missing?
thanks
-Mike
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frayedend
Joined: 12 Sep 2006 Posts: 190 Location: Shrewsbury, MA
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 9:42 am Post subject: |
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My thought is that making a top for a tank that has none is probably not worth it. I recommend going to a pet store and finding a screen lid that will fit (measure before you go unless you are sure you have a 20 Long). Then buy the clips that go on to keep it secure. It will look much nicer than using straps. After that I would buy a piece of plexiglass, the best stuff is polycarbonate. You can get a piece big enough for about 10 bucks. You can cut it to fit on top of the screen, about 3/4 of the top covered. This leaves room to vent and for a heat lamp.
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deborahbroadus Moderator

Joined: 16 Jul 2006 Posts: 6317 Location: Baltimore, MD
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 9:59 am Post subject: |
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| frayedend wrote: | | My thought is that making a top for a tank that has none is probably not worth it. I recommend going to a pet store and finding a screen lid that will fit (measure before you go unless you are sure you have a 20 Long). Then buy the clips that go on to keep it secure. It will look much nicer than using straps. After that I would buy a piece of plexiglass, the best stuff is polycarbonate. You can get a piece big enough for about 10 bucks. You can cut it to fit on top of the screen, about 3/4 of the top covered. This leaves room to vent and for a heat lamp. |
I like the idea of using wood for the top, drilling a few holes to vent. It would probably hold humidity better. If you can get your substrate temps to 90s and 80s you will not need a lamp (it's useless in my opinion)
What you would need to do is cut the wood to fit inside the lip of the aquarium so that there are no gaps and then get clamps to hold it down it will still look attractive.

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tommyandamanda21
Joined: 07 Jan 2007 Posts: 532 Location: Virginia Beach Fire Dept.
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 11:02 am Post subject: |
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deb are those your setups/// if so why is you thermometer oustide and the probe inside???
the probe only does temp and not humidity, if it is the same one i got a wally mart.... the humidity sensor was on the back the thermometer at the top i believe...........
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deborahbroadus Moderator

Joined: 16 Jul 2006 Posts: 6317 Location: Baltimore, MD
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 11:08 am Post subject: |
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| tommyandamanda21 wrote: | deb are those your setups/// if so why is you thermometer oustide and the probe inside???
the probe only does temp and not humidity, if it is the same one i got a wally mart.... the humidity sensor was on the back the thermometer at the top i believe........... |
Nope, these are my setups when I was a noobie. I had to learn the same as everyone else. I wasn't born knowing what I know. 
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tommyandamanda21
Joined: 07 Jan 2007 Posts: 532 Location: Virginia Beach Fire Dept.
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 11:18 am Post subject: |
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LOL 
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tommyandamanda21
Joined: 07 Jan 2007 Posts: 532 Location: Virginia Beach Fire Dept.
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 11:26 am Post subject: |
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amanda wants to know whar does blue dome things are in the back
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deborahbroadus Moderator

Joined: 16 Jul 2006 Posts: 6317 Location: Baltimore, MD
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 11:30 am Post subject: |
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| tommyandamanda21 wrote: | | amanda wants to know whar does blue dome things are in the back |
Those are smoke/misters. I brought them in Family Dollar General Store for 15 dollars for the whole kit. The mister itself can cost that much. It gives out a smokey mist of water not a spray.
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tommyandamanda21
Joined: 07 Jan 2007 Posts: 532 Location: Virginia Beach Fire Dept.
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 11:35 am Post subject: |
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r they still available, imean can u find them? would u recomend them for snakes instead of habba mist?
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valiant
Joined: 26 Dec 2006 Posts: 64 Location: Tacoma, Wa
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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thats what I was thinking of doing was drilling holes into the wood to use as a vent, should I only do it on the cool side or do it in the back length wise. what size bit is too big, we have plenty of sizes, but I didnt know what was too big.
I went and remeasured the tank after getting dimmension of the internet, I have a regular 20g not the Long one. it should be fine until it starts to get bigger, then I can invest in something bigger.
I was really amazed when I found the piece of wood, if you push real lighty, you can hear it scrape the side of the tank till it stops on the lip. its like it was cut for this tank, all I need to do is trim it length wise. when it sits on the lip it is flush with the whole top.
I have the tank sitting on two 2x4 becuase I didnt want the UTH sitting against my table, so I was thinking of putting those heavy duty hooks into the ends of the 2x4's and hooking the hooks of the straps on those.
do you think that would be as strong as looping it around and hooking it to itself?
as far as keeping the heat up, when I tested my 10g with a screen top, the hot side got to 100 and the cool side got to 65. I didnt put any water in the tank cuase I was just working on the heat first. I think I may have to get a smaller UTH put it on the cool side with its own dimmer and make it only 80 and put a dimmer on the hot side and make it 95. If I use a small UTH, I might be able to turn it up to 84 so that the areas around the UTH are a few degrees lower.
I did think about getting a pre-made screen top, but then I would have to do everything to make that screen top work. I thought about getting plexi to use for the top or even pegboard, but I have to plywood here, so I might as well give it a try.
I dont have a snake yet, I want to make sure it's cage is perfect before I get one, so its enviroment isnt contantly changing on it.
thanks,
Mike
thats a cool idea to use those fogger things, did it raise the himidity a lot or just a little, for being in a big tank?
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valiant
Joined: 26 Dec 2006 Posts: 64 Location: Tacoma, Wa
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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well, I scrubbed and bleach cleaned the tank and cut to top to fit, it fits nice and tightly, so much I had to use a screw driver to get it out, so I will have to install a handle on it.
it looking pretty good so far, just have to figure out where I should drill the holes.
then I can load it up with my substrate plug in the UTH and see if I can get correct heat.
-Mike
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deborahbroadus Moderator

Joined: 16 Jul 2006 Posts: 6317 Location: Baltimore, MD
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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| valiant wrote: | well, I scrubbed and bleach cleaned the tank and cut to top to fit, it fits nice and tightly, so much I had to use a screw driver to get it out, so I will have to install a handle on it.
it looking pretty good so far, just have to figure out where I should drill the holes.
then I can load it up with my substrate plug in the UTH and see if I can get correct heat.
-Mike |
I would put a couple of holes on the cool side only wherever you want them. But you still need a way to make sure it doesn't open; balls are very strong.
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valiant
Joined: 26 Dec 2006 Posts: 64 Location: Tacoma, Wa
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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I drilled a 1/4" hole every inch for 4"x12" rectangle on the cool side. I have the top on the tank and have it all set up, letting the UTH heat up to see what I get. I am thinking I have too much substrate, its about an 1 1/2" deep.
I am going to build a stand out of 2x4s to lift the tank above my table cuase I dont want the uth sitting directly on my table. I am going to sink some heavy duty loops into the 2x4 stand and use 2 ratchet straps to hold it down. that should keep the top down.
thanks,
Mike
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deborahbroadus Moderator

Joined: 16 Jul 2006 Posts: 6317 Location: Baltimore, MD
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 8:33 am Post subject: |
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| tommyandamanda21 wrote: | | r they still available, imean can u find them? would u recomend them for snakes instead of habba mist? |
No I don't recommend them, I was a noob when I was using them and desperate for anything to bring up the humidity.
In reality the snakes knock the tops of these foggers off and they can be shocked by the small metal fogger. What I did later was take that fogger out and put it in a container with holes in it that they couldn't knock over or have access to the fogging element. Be creative! 
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deborahbroadus Moderator

Joined: 16 Jul 2006 Posts: 6317 Location: Baltimore, MD
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 8:34 am Post subject: |
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| valiant wrote: | I drilled a 1/4" hole every inch for 4"x12" rectangle on the cool side. I have the top on the tank and have it all set up, letting the UTH heat up to see what I get. I am thinking I have too much substrate, its about an 1 1/2" deep.
I am going to build a stand out of 2x4s to lift the tank above my table cuase I dont want the uth sitting directly on my table. I am going to sink some heavy duty loops into the 2x4 stand and use 2 ratchet straps to hold it down. that should keep the top down.
thanks,
Mike |
Make sure to post a pic of the finished product! If you have shredded Aspen as a substrate, that retains both heat and humidity. I like the shredded better than the shaved, but they both work well.
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